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however, exxon reporting its refinery in california is back up to full operating capacity, but the chevron is still not at full capacity. we are joined by the former congressional budget office director, the of the american action forum. doug, good to have you with us. i never heard people be intelligent in their own special ways go conspiracy nut on us when the report came out. give us the direct, simplest explanation how in the world we can see the payrolls rise by 114,000, and the unemployment rate plummet to 7.8%. >> the payroll employment, the 1 # 14,000, is a number that we get by going to firms saying how many people on the payroll? they ask one out of every three workers. it's a big survey of the economy, considered the most reliable. the other number is going to households saying do you have a job? if the answer is no, are you looking for work? if so, you count as unemployed. this month, they asked do you have a job, somehow, the reports came back that we traded 873 # additional job, simply, completely out of line with everything else in the economy, and only evidence of what is e
however, exxon reporting its refinery in california is back up to full operating capacity, but the chevron is still not at full capacity. we are joined by the former congressional budget office director, the of the american action forum. doug, good to have you with us. i never heard people be intelligent in their own special ways go conspiracy nut on us when the report came out. give us the direct, simplest explanation how in the world we can see the payrolls rise by 114,000, and the...
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chevron pipeline that moves crude oil to northern california was also recently shut down. >> we all know california pays more for fuel than any other state. we keep looking at the national average and then we come back to california. we have all the different regulations in california we have to pay for and the recent accident in richmond. of course they will get their money back out. >> reporter: analysts say gasoline is at the low nest ten years. what doesn't help is the states strict pro lug restrictions that require cleaner burning gasoline. while prices in the bay area are high, it's still higher in los angeles where some gas stations have passed the $5 mark. a few station owners have shut down their pumps rather than charging the higher price to customers just to break even. reporting live janine de la vega. >>> time is 6:39. sal busy weekend. we haven't mentioned the cal- ucla game. >> that is right. stanford, arizona and palo alto. there is a lot of stuff going on. >> plenty to do. >> tori campbell says she is keeping track of the justin bieber concert. >> i'm a good parent i'm m
chevron pipeline that moves crude oil to northern california was also recently shut down. >> we all know california pays more for fuel than any other state. we keep looking at the national average and then we come back to california. we have all the different regulations in california we have to pay for and the recent accident in richmond. of course they will get their money back out. >> reporter: analysts say gasoline is at the low nest ten years. what doesn't help is the states...
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so i don't think exxon and chevron are out there saying let's hold back refinery capacity and run the price of gasoline up. reality is supplies are tight, refinery capacity is tight. there's been no investment in refinery since the '70s in this country. we need to have more refinery capacity so we can take hiccups like california and keep in stride. reality is pipelines go down, refineries have issues, they go into maintenance mode and we have no overhead in this country. that's not going to be fixed today. >> that's a great point on refineries. these refineries are about 40 years old. john, oil prices going up or down in the next weeks or months? >> down. particularly the slowdown we're seeing in china, the warning from the world bank this morning highlights that. there is more production of that coming online. those prices will get pressured lower, down towards $80, if not $75 a barrel. >> thank you both. learned a lot. >>> america tossing a trade aga grenade against china. that's ahead. >>> nearly every pair of glasses or sunglasses on earth was made by just one company. will you n
so i don't think exxon and chevron are out there saying let's hold back refinery capacity and run the price of gasoline up. reality is supplies are tight, refinery capacity is tight. there's been no investment in refinery since the '70s in this country. we need to have more refinery capacity so we can take hiccups like california and keep in stride. reality is pipelines go down, refineries have issues, they go into maintenance mode and we have no overhead in this country. that's not going to be...
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at chevron, if we can't do it right, we won't do it at all. we've got to think long term. we've got to think long term. ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneur's dream... ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ how do you help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪ or turn 30-million artifacts... ♪ into a high-tech masterpiece? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. >> schieffer: some of our stations are leaving us now. for most of you, we'll be back with a whole lot more of "face the nation," including my commentary. so stay with us. ,,,, dan hurd: when i was a child, california was a leader in education funding. erika derry: and the fact that california isn't making it a priority frustrates me. dan hurd: i'm ashamed of that, and i don't want this to continue for my daughter. brenda kealing: prop 38 is going to bring a lot of money to our schools. suzan sol
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one reason, we saw the refinery fire at the chevron refinery in richmond. that was in august. there was another refinery problem, a power failure shut down a refinery at the exxonmobil refinery in torrance in southern california and they didn't resume production until this last friday. bob redell, "today in the bay." >>> we're talking just a slight chance of showers. >> yeah. i think we're going to see some. i bet my bottom dollar on it. good morning to you. that's how i make my living. i'll show you exactly when coming up but she has a good point. we're not going to see a good lot of it and we're only expecting one certain part of the bay area to get hit. i want to start with this live picture. clear skies overnight making for a very cold morning. we're close to the upper 30s up in santa rosa. beautiful sunrise from san bruno. now we're getting that gorgeous sunrise here in san jose. so grab your jacket as jacket weather ha returned. you can see a little light activity in san francisco as we speak. we'll get more throughout the day today. if you live south of san mateo, even
one reason, we saw the refinery fire at the chevron refinery in richmond. that was in august. there was another refinery problem, a power failure shut down a refinery at the exxonmobil refinery in torrance in southern california and they didn't resume production until this last friday. bob redell, "today in the bay." >>> we're talking just a slight chance of showers. >> yeah. i think we're going to see some. i bet my bottom dollar on it. good morning to you. that's how...
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at chevron, if we can't do it right, we won't do it at all. we've got to think long term. we've got to think long term. ♪ we've got to think long term. we've got to think long term. hey america, even though slisa rinna is wearing the new depend silhouette briefs for charity to prove how great the fit is even under a fantastic dress. the best protection now looks, fits and feels just like underwear. we invite you to get a free sample and try one on too. >>> a close range gun battle between police officers and a mentally ill man rages in mad river township, ohio. incredibly, all caught on camera. it's new year's day, 2011. a man calls 911 from a local trailer park saying that someone shot at him. >> somebody just shot through the house. >> is the person that shot through the house still there? >> i don't know. i don't want to look out. >> the call of shots fired 20 years ago, that was a rare occasion. today in the world we live in, shots fired is not an uncommon call. >> clark county sheriff's deputy suzanne hopper arrives at the scene and discovers what she believes are t
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at chevron, if we can't do it right, we won't do it at all. we've got to think long term. we've got to think long term. ♪ hey, it's sandra -- from accounting. peter. i can see that you're busy... but you were gonna help us crunch the numbers for accounts receivable today. i mean i know that this is important. well, both are important. let's be clear. they are but this is important too. [ man ] the receivables. [ male announcer ] michelin knows it's better for xerox to help manage their finance processing. so they can focus on keeping the world moving. with xerox, you're ready for real business. >>> coming up next, more with our roundtable. chuck todd will go inside the numbers looking at enthusiasm in the electorate. [ male announcer ] you're not the type of person who sets goals and only hopes to achieve them. so you'll be happy to know that when it comes to your investment goals, northern trust uses award-winning expertise to lead you through an interactive investment process. adding precision to your portfolio construction by directly matching your assets and your ris
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fire at chevron plant in august there was also a power outage at exxon mobil plant. officials are saying now it's back on line they expect the prices should drop. hopefully soon. fbi investigators now confirming who they believe pulled the trigger in the shooting of that u.s. border patrol agent earlier this week. and a recall on peanut butter is expanding tonight. reports young children getting sick. what you need to know to stay safe. that's coming up inside "the fox report." stay close. [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness? by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. [ male announcer ] it started long ago. the joy of giving something everything you've got. it takes passion. and it's not letting up anytime soon. at unitedhealthcare insurance company, we understand that commitment. and always have. so does aarp, an organization serving the needs of americans 50 and over for generations. so it's no sur
fire at chevron plant in august there was also a power outage at exxon mobil plant. officials are saying now it's back on line they expect the prices should drop. hopefully soon. fbi investigators now confirming who they believe pulled the trigger in the shooting of that u.s. border patrol agent earlier this week. and a recall on peanut butter is expanding tonight. reports young children getting sick. what you need to know to stay safe. that's coming up inside "the fox report." stay...
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at chevron, if we can't do it right, we won't do it at all. we've got to think long term. we've got to think long term. ♪ [ sneezes ] [ male announcer ] if you have yet to master the quiet sneeze... ♪ [ sneezes ] [ male announcer ] you may be an allergy muddler. try zyrtec®. it gives you powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin® because zyrtec® starts working at hour 1 on the first day you take it. claritin® doesn't start working until hour 3. [ sneezes ] [ male announcer ] zyrtec®. love the air. join zyrtec® rewards. save up to $7 on zyrtec® products. >>> we'll look at the background map. what do ohio, new hampshire, and virginia have in common? [ snoring ] ♪ [ snoring ] [ male announcer ] introducing zzzquil sleep-aid. [ snoring ] [ snoring ] [ male announcer ] it's not for colds, it's not for pain, it's just for sleep. [ snoring ] [ male announcer ] because sleep is a beautiful thing. [ birds chirping ] introducing zzzquil, the non-habit forming sleep-aid from the makers of nyquil. ♪ hey, it's sandra -- from accounting. peter. i ca
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chevron's putting more than $8 billion dollars back in the u.s. economy this year. in pipes, cement, steel, jobs, energy. we need to get the wheels turning. i'm proud of that. making real things... for real. ...that make a real difference. ♪ for real. ...that make a real difference. customer erin swenson bought so, i'm happy. today. sales go up... i'm happy. it went out today... i'm happy. what if she's not home? (together) she won't be happy. use ups! she can get a text alert, reroute... even reschedule her package. it's ups my choice. are you happy? i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. happy. happy. happy. happy. (together) happy. i love logistics. >>> debating styles, we want to go back and look at some of the debates and see with a we learned. mitt romney in florida on nbc, earlier this year giving you some sense of how he'll go after the president's record. watch. >> there are a lot of people in florida that are hurting. this president has failed miserably the people in florida. his plans for nasa? he has no plans for nasa. the space coast i
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chevron's putting more than $8 billion dollars back in the u.s. economy this year. in pipes, cement, steel, jobs, energy. we need to get the wheels turning. i'm proud of that. making real things... for real. ...that make a real difference. ♪ >>> we are back with our political roundtable. joining me, anchor of bbc's "world news america" katty kay. chuck todd. the founder and chairman of the faith and freedom coalition ralph reed. and the former democratic governor of pennsylvania ed rendell. welcome to all of you. so much to get to in this campaign. the big debate starting here, chuck, on wednesday. but you're looking at the map, and that's what the romney campaign is looking at as they look to restart this campaign. >> nine background statement states. here they are. one of them we have moved into the obama category. but we have polled in all of them over the last couple of weeks. the president has leads ranging anywhere from two to eight points. but what was interesting, we asked a few other questions. including job approval rating, romney favorability, and who w
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at chevron, if we can't do it right, we won't do it at all. we've got to think long term. we've got to think long term. ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneur's dream... ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ how do you help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪ or turn 30-million artifacts... ♪ into a high-tech masterpiece? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. >> schieffer: some of our stations are leaving us now. for most of you, we'll be back with a whole lot more of "face the nation," including my commentary. so stay with us. >> schieffer: welcome back to "face the nation" page two. the first presidential debate, as we've been saying, will be held wednesday. it will focus on domestic,such as the economy, health care, and governing. so we've assembled a panel of distinguish americans, i would say, to talk about the state of country and where they thi
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at chevron, if we can't do it right, we won't do it at all. we've got to think long term. we've got to think long term. ♪ >> good today to all of you, it's 1:00 in the east, it's 10:00 a.m. in the west. a new reaction today from paul ryan. >> we have had some missteps. but at the end of the day, the choice is really clear. and we're giving people a very clear choice. we have these pro growth solutions for opportunity and upward mobile and a dynamic economy. you've got the president basically promising four more years like the last four years. and here and there. we have not been able to frame that choice clearly. by the end of the day, people are not going to understand exactly what they have got. >> a voluntary campaign senior advisor is seeking to clarify the president's plan even after the currency of the economy. >> the president's not ga qualifiesed. we have now created 5 million jobs, we're net positive in terms of jobs created. but whole is huge, and we have to create an commit in which the middle class has a chance. we're not going to get back there by getting ba
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. >> chevron's facility is still down from august. suffering through some torrent power interruptions. refinery production is taking a big drop. >> reporter: on thursday, valero announced it was suspending spot sales of gasoline, though it will continue to supply its own stations. while customers brace for the long holiday weekend, it could bring more big jumps at the pump. >>> now let's get a check of this morning's other top stories. >> chris jansing is at the news desk for us this morning. >> good morning, lester and gener jenna. good morning, everyone. a radical muslim will face charges in the united states. they arrived in new york and connecticut early this morning. at least two of the suspects are due in new haven federal court today. they face a variety of charges stretching back several years. >>> the fbi says a preliminary investigation has found friendly fire is likely to blame for the death this week of a border patrol agent along the arizona-mexico border. agent nicolas ivey and two others were responding to an alarm trig
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chevron's putting more than $8 billion dollars back in the u.s. economy this year. in pipes, cement, steel, jobs, energy. we need to get the wheels turning. i'm proud of that. making real things... for real. ...that make a real difference. ♪ >>> i'm craig melvin. here's a look at some of the top storying makes news right now. we just learned moments ago that the assault charge we told you about earlier in the broadcast will be dropped against a man who was arrested for assaulting lindsay lohan in a manhattan hotel room. there's a political connection here as well. the man arrested for attacking her worked for republican illinois congressman john shimkus. in a statement a spokesman for the congressman telling us, quote, while no one from congressman shimkus' office has been contacted follows the arrest, he's been an employee in the congressman's washington office. obviously the congressman does not condone his actions. police sources tell "the new york daily news" that lohan and the man got in an argument after he refused to delete cell phone pictures of her. >> al
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a fire at the chevron richmond refinery in august. power bumped knocked exxonmobil off line last monday. two of the big reasons. and then, of course, this is a difficult market to resupply from long distance. we're sort of an island. when there's a sudden supply short fall it's tough to get additional barrels into this market in a hurry. >> so if we bring in this -- if we allow for different blends how much could the price come down. is this marginal improvement. are we still looking at relative highs given the season? >> no. this should be a significant improvement. the market was off on toward of 45 or 50 cents on friday. the governor's announcement will take another 45 or 50 cents out of it. indeed the market that was up about $1.16 from the time things got started until it peaked last thursday. so another 50 cents is going to come out of the market in the next day or so. >> nothing to shake a stick at, i guess. is there any danger in this kind of precedent or is this done all the time. once you start missing with the seasonal guid
a fire at the chevron richmond refinery in august. power bumped knocked exxonmobil off line last monday. two of the big reasons. and then, of course, this is a difficult market to resupply from long distance. we're sort of an island. when there's a sudden supply short fall it's tough to get additional barrels into this market in a hurry. >> so if we bring in this -- if we allow for different blends how much could the price come down. is this marginal improvement. are we still looking at...